The Conservative chairman of the justice select committee has spoken out about the problems in the county court, saying civil justice is ânowhere near high enough up the agendaâ according to a report by Neil Rose of legal Futures.
"Sir Bob Neill MP also said he was âsomewhat reassuredâ by the comments of Lord Chancellor Dominic Raab earlier this week about the future of the Human Rights Act.
Speaking yesterday at an event in Parliament organised by the Association of Consumer Support Organisations, Sir Bob described a âtwo-trackâ civil justice system.
âIf youâre taking your claim to the High Court, you get a really Rolls Royce service⌠[It] has got the kit, itâs got the real quality judges and youâll get the hearings done generally in a really timely fashion.
âThe proof of the pudding in that has been in the pandemic, where the High Court has pretty much carried on very swiftly, almost as normal.â
But the county court was âa very different worldâ, he went on.
âYouâve got a system thatâs still paper-based, the technology to do remote hearings is very variable, the court staff frankly are variable and are some of the worst paid in the public services, [and] thereâs a shortage of suitable judiciary there, even down to getting the deputy district judges to do the box work.â
He said the delays in the county court were âalmost as badâ as the much more high-profile problems in the Crown Court.
âThe county court is the bit we donât talk about,â he added, describing civil justice as ânowhere near high enough up the agendaâ â given that most peopleâs interactions with the courts will be in civil or family courts, or tribunals â and âtaken for grantedâ.
He considered the courtsâ recovery from the pandemic as âpatchyâ, with hearings in the county or family courts being taken out of lists at short notice and not relisted for a year.
The magistratesâ courts, however, were in a better state, but there was âno convincing evidenceâ that the Crown Court backlog would go down sufficiently despite a recent commitment in the Budget of some more money. On the governmentâs own figures, this will not reduce the backlog to pre-Covid levels.
âItâs not good enough,â Sir Bob said. âIf you want a good system, youâve got to pay for it.â
He indicated that he was encouraged by the first tranche of data to come out of the Official Injury Claim portal for low-value road traffic cases, saying the committeeâs overriding concern about the impact on access to justice had not been borne out so far.
However, he agreed that the government missed an opportunity when it removed alternative dispute resolution from the portal.
âThe whole future of the way weâve got to do civil litigation is to move to a situation where a form of mediation is the norm as the starting point,â he said. The âRolls Royceâ machine should be left for the âdifficult, intractable cases that need to be heard in front of a High Court judgeâ.
Sir Bob predicted that future reform of the civil courts would be focused on digitisation â given the heavy emphasis placed on that by the Master of the Rolls, Sir Geoffrey Vos â rather than procedural change.
Answering a range of other questions from the audience, Sir Bob â who practised as a barrister for 30 years â said he did not believe there were enough lawyers in Parliament.
In wake of the Geoffrey Cox controversy, he added that he was not against lawyer MPs continuing to practise âso long as you do so in a way that doesnât get in the way of your primary responsibility [to your constituents] and you declare it⌠Keeping people in touch is not a bad thingâ.
For five years until 31 January 2021, Sir Bob received ÂŁ15,000 a year as a consultant to national law firm Weightmans, providing âstrategic consultancy adviceâ for six hours a month.
He is also senior adviser to the Substantia Group, a property and business consultancy, and receives ÂŁ1,000 a month for six hours.
Sir Bob said he was âvery firmlyâ of the view that the Lord Chancellor should be a lawyer, ânot least because unlike any other cabinet minister, they swear an oath under the Constitutional Reform Act to uphold the independence of the judiciary and ensure adequate provision for the legal system â [the latter] something more honoured in the breach, perhaps â and I think thatâs really importantâ.
Dominic Raab gave evidence to the select committee earlier this week and Sir Bob said he was âsomewhat reassuredâ that the Lord Chancellor âmade it very clear that itâs not the intention of the government to see to withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights, which for me would be a red lineâ.
Rather, he was looking to âreform and updateâ rather than repeal the Human Rights Act.
âThe devil will be in the detail. I think too much change would be a mistake as itâs actually advantageous that people can bring their claims invoking article rights in the British domestic courts to start with rather than go straight to Strasbourg.â
Sir Bob said that, although there was a âstrong argumentâ for reform of the regulation of lawyers as set out by the Legal Services Act 2007, the governmentâs other priorities meant it was unlikely to happen in this Parliament."